Would YOU become an Eternal?

Discuss the translation of Eien no Aselia - Kono Daichi no Hate de.

Knowing what it entails, would YOU become an Eternal?

Yes
20
74%
No
3
11%
It depends (explain)
4
15%
 
Total votes: 27

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Mon May 03, 2010 10:03 pm

Moreover,... as informed ... Aselia and Yuuto are the ONLY one with a child
And the over 1000 years old Tokimi is STILL YOUNG =o=....
Take that and imagine how hard it is to find another eternal u can truly be with

Xenoe
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by Xenoe » Mon May 03, 2010 10:05 pm

You don't have to have a child to be with someone, rather its the other way around.

Volandum
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by Volandum » Mon May 03, 2010 10:05 pm

Well, Tokimi kind of locked herself into going after Yuuto.

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Mon May 03, 2010 10:14 pm

Isnt that even worse =o= ... s
It means she foresaw that only after 1000+ years that she have a chance (1/7 chance precisely) to be with someone ...
Also, it means she had a goal but still coulnt grasp firm of it...
now how long we who dont even see our goal have to wander aimlessly between worlds .... ?


Mah, harem lovers are exceptions ...tho
Also, pls be reminded that if u become an eternal, ur basically uprooted. There wont be anyone at all hold out their hands for u to go to OR go back to ...
In my opinion, if one dont have resolve at least as strong as Takios (hes so far the most human Law eternal i see)...or a bond already with other Eternals like Tokimi and Yuuto(i dont want a bond like Takios with Temourin tho)...
most people, after a while, probbably will undergo identity disorder and lose their own identity (or suicide if possible...inability to suicide...that doesnt sound pretty ... ) ...

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Mon May 03, 2010 10:30 pm

Btw, there is also the slight pain after ur uprooted (LOOK AT LESTEENA* =o= )

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Mon May 03, 2010 10:36 pm

iamin7ove wrote: Also, pls be reminded that if u become an eternal, ur basically uprooted. There wont be anyone at all hold out their hands for u to go to OR go back to ...
In my opinion, if one dont have resolve at least as strong as Takios (hes so far the most human Law eternal i see)...or a bond already with other Eternals like Tokimi and Yuuto(i dont want a bond like Takios with Temourin tho)...
most people, after a while, probbably will undergo identity disorder and lose their own identity (or suicide if possible...inability to suicide...that doesnt sound pretty ... ) ...
OH wari wari, i forget there are still the girls of Kurahashi around...

Mane
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by Mane » Mon May 03, 2010 11:22 pm

iamin7ove wrote:Moreover,... as informed ... Aselia and Yuuto are the ONLY one with a child
And the over 1000 years old Tokimi is STILL YOUNG =o=....
Take that and imagine how hard it is to find another eternal u can truly be with
One way to think about this:
Life on earth began over 3.5 billion years ago. So the Heaven Rank Eternity Sword (Aeon?) shattered at least that long ago. (Modern) Humans began to appear over 200,000 years ago. I don't know if bacteria or what-not can become eternals (probably not), but in the (at least) 200,000 years that eternals have existed, only one child has been born among them. Kinda depressing for romance if you ask me.

Another way to think about this:
Where did Permanence (Euphoria's sword) come from? Did Wisdom just spin-off a portion of the mana he/it absorbed from Rebirth and World? If so, then you'd need to completely annihilate another high rank eternity sword to even have a chance of reproducing. None of World's 4 fragments were high rank. Your offspring's (not all intelligent life are human, apparently) eternity sword have to be high rank, too. The only way you're getting that power is by absorbing other high rank swords. Rebirth spun-off lots of low rank fragments, so it's not a matter of absorbing many low rank swords. Tokimi did mention that in all the time that eternals have been fighting amongst themselves, only a few have actually been killed. So you'd expect that high rank eternity swords' annihilation would be even rarer. Wisdom lived even though his previous contractor died. It would have to be annihilation because just shattering returns the mana to where the fragment(s) of the sword resides. So there might have been many eternal couples(?). The reason they don't have children is the infrequent occurrence of a high rank eternity sword's complete annihilation.

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Mon May 03, 2010 11:40 pm

Mane wrote:
iamin7ove wrote:
Another way to think about this:
Where did Permanence (Euphoria's sword) come from? Did Wisdom just spin-off a portion of the mana he/it absorbed from Rebirth and World? If so, then you'd need to completely annihilate another high rank eternity sword to even have a chance of reproducing. None of World's 4 fragments weren't high rank. Your offspring's (not all intelligent life are human, apparently) eternity sword have to be high rank, too. The only way you're getting that power is by absorbing other high rank swords. Rebirth spun-off lots of low rank fragments, so it's not a matter of absorbing many low rank swords. Tokimi did mention that in all the time that eternals have been fighting amongst themselves, only a few have actually been killed. So you'd expect that high rank eternity swords' annihilation would be even rarer. Wisdom lived even though his previous contractor died. It would have to be annihilation because just shattering returns the mana to where the fragment(s) of the sword resides. So there might have been many eternal couples(?). The reason they don't have children is the infrequent occurrence of a high rank eternity sword's complete annihilation.

Man, no one said the sword have to die after its contractor died =o= ... They only said the swords turned to golden dust and vanish ... No one said it but this too might be a way for the eternity sword to return to their resting place ...
and about eternals' deaths...I think because they are basica just, like Youtia said, infos...so they will only be destroyed if one make them believe they will be ... or something like that. Otherwise, they will just go back to being info then reform after a while ...
Shun's special though because he basically fused his body with his sword =>destroying him = destroying the sword also...


Euphoria's sword ...hmm, the only thing i can say is that its seem to be the same case as how spirits have their swords right after they're born... Something overlooked by the script
My theory is that the sword is born by the mana of Aselia and Yuuto have (few at first but it grows together with euphoria - Yuuto did said it grows also, didnt he ...)

And the lack of child between eternals are probably because of their fear that their child will have to live a life of eternal fighting like they are (this is probbably the first reason ...). Another reason being that
1. Law Eternals...lets leave them out. I dont think someone being controlled under Temourin and the likes ever think they need love
2. Chaos Eternal - Becoming Chaos eternal might not be as easy as in this game, especially MALE (remember, spirits are ALL FEMALES). Guides to the way of being Chaos eternal is already rare...but i dare say a girl that willing to give their "THAT" to do the ritual to help a guy become an Eternal is even rarer =o= (and the guy might even turn to other girls instead for god's sake) ... => Eternal who acknowledge love are rare and MALE eternal who acknowledge love are even rarer ...

Mane
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by Mane » Tue May 04, 2010 12:01 am

Shun claims to be able to absorb Wisdom's mana once he shatters it. Swords return to their resting place only if the eternal or the sword itself did what Tokimi did with Finality--take only a portion of the sword's power and leave the majority in a safe place. The game claims that Guardian Ajugis has as much mana as an entire world and rivaled the eternals in power. So a high rank sword should have even more mana (eternals can't use all their power in most worlds). It would be impossible for Yuuto or Aselia to be absorbing entire worlds so that they can have a child. It would also be impossible for them to travel to many worlds to absorb some of each world's mana. Each of these would be "interfering" in the world. So the conclusion, to me, is that Wisdom (maybe together with Eternity) absorbed World's mana and used that mana to make Permanence. I think Rebirth has a portion of its power (Orupha's sword) in the Labyrinth of Time, so it couldn't have been annihilated.

iamin7ove
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Re: Would YOU become an Eternal?

Post by iamin7ove » Tue May 04, 2010 12:06 am

hmm ... like i said ...the amount of mana required to get Euhphoria borned in not that high but through time she grows up as she absorbing mana =>small amount -> big amount ...which also explains why she keep growing but very slowly ... maybe shes basically only a container of mana like spirits but well, on another level

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