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Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:20 pm
by Ghaleon
Title says it, I'm tired of seeing all the buffs in this game give the player no clue how much they add / subtract from each stat, especially since they are so far from being equal. Many times I'm not sure which skill I want to replace for another because I don't know how significant a buff/debuff they give. If anybody knows please tell me where I can find this info myself.

Re: Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:21 pm
by Mane
Look at the arrows on the left side of the skill's description, the place where all the additional effects are listed. A red arrow has greater effect than a blue arrow. The exact numbers I do not know.

Re: Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 11:28 pm
by Volandum
Would you like to compute them? The best place to do this is in the final mission (no elemental interference).

Re: Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:32 am
by Ghaleon
Volandum wrote:Would you like to compute them? The best place to do this is in the final mission (no elemental interference).
Well, given the age of this game I was kinda hoping.expecting it was already done by some person or another. If I ever feel unlazy enough to do something, I should go back to working on a patch for this other game instead (kinda half-done atm). Besides, I'm not really comfortable enough with this game to really know that I wouldn't screw something up. Even with the formulas, and knowing how extra elemental damage works, some attacks just kinda surprise me with how much they damage (Yuuto's aura photon beam for example). Maybe I'll just figure out on my own in a less than definate fashion though (like major, minor, etc).

Re: Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:40 am
by NightEye159
I do!

Well at least for the original game, so some changes may have been made between it and now. I have an excel sheet of all the skills and their various stuffs, but it's all currently in Japanese.

Source of the info is here for those that want to peruse: http://www.aselia.net/c_computer/xuse/a ... formation/
Characters are on the left in order of: Yuuto, Aselia, Espelia, Orupha, Uruka, Kouin, Kyouko, Tokimi, Nelie, Shia, Selia, Himika, Nanaru, Halion, Nim, Helion, Faren
After clicking a character click the link to the rightmost next to the (normal/hard/superhard) link. I think Yuuto is the only one with two since many of his abilities get an additional buff when he goes Eternal.

For the most part, only the end game skills will exceed a change of + or - 50% either way. Lower versions of skills start with lower buffs, like Yuuto's Inspire I gives +20% attack power with -10% defense, while Inspire II gives +50% and -25% respectively. His badass end game aura skill, Eternal, gives +50% to everything (attack, defense, resist, all attributes) and increases skill use in the turn by 1 (so an attack that would be used twice in a round now goes for three hits).

Note that the %'s are additive(proper use?) so having 450% attack power and buffing it by 50% makes it 500%, not 675%. Or at least that's the way it works in Spi-tan, the offshoot game where they're more open about character stats and uses an almost identical system for said stats. There it also had hard caps of 510% on all stats, with 100% on attributes. But the attribute stat is hidden in Aselia, and I've gotten some ridiculous hits on people so the caps may have been after the fact to try to balance abilities more.

Ex. My level 99 High Eternal Aselia took on an enemy form that casted Silent Field II (+100% attack, -100% defense, +100% blue attribute) and she then casted Possession (The sk.lvl. 16 version for +100% attack, +100% resist, +100% all attributes) on herself. She then hit the defender for some 334k(x3) with Eternity Remover for just over a million damage. No one in the game has more than 99k hp. Overkill much?

Though it was a black spirit that reflected a good bit (like 200K) of damage back on her leaving her with 1 hp (since damage reflect cannot kill) and she was then hit by a strong breeze and died. lulz were had.

If you want specific abilities I can just list them out too.

Re: Anybody know what % buffs buff by?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:32 am
by Ghaleon
Sweet, thanks, I'll be sure to check it out next time I'm on my CPU.