Skills List

Discuss the translation of Eien no Aselia - Kono Daichi no Hate de.
lunarium
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Re: Skills List

Post by lunarium » Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:17 am

Seems like bad checksum, repair it with winrar

Lynx190
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Re: Skills List

Post by Lynx190 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:46 pm

er, I think you must mean HSIV (which does in fact suck badly); Aselia's HSV is 2 hits at 2600 power while HSIII is 2 hits at 1960 power (but HSIII does have many more uses, thus I kept it in favor of V)

blazord
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Re: Skills List

Post by blazord » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:04 pm

Lynx190 wrote:er, I think you must mean HSIV (which does in fact suck badly); Aselia's HSV is 2 hits at 2600 power while HSIII is 2 hits at 1960 power (but HSIII does have many more uses, thus I kept it in favor of V)
No I mean the physical number of hits the ability does in battle, not the actual value listed for the skill. To touch on what you said: HS-5 only does a single hit on the enemy 8.5k (x1), which HS-3 does 3 consecutive hits for lower damage 6k(x3) but far more total output (18k). HS-4 actually does the normal 3 hits that the previous incarnations did and is superior to HS-3 in that regard, BUT it's only used one time during your turn and has less uses which makes it inferior still to HS-3. Pretty lame really, I mean why label something higher when it's clearly a worse skill and I realize they do debuffs but they hardly make up for it given how those are applied.

blazord
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Re: Skills List

Post by blazord » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:08 pm

lunarium wrote:Seems like bad checksum, repair it with winrar
Oh sweet, that worked like a champ. I didn't even know about this function and it's usage. Thanks a lot.

Lynx190
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Re: Skills List

Post by Lynx190 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:09 am

hmmmm that's very odd, I've never gotten Aselia's HSV, only Nelie's, but all levels of it should have the same animation. It sounds like a display bug I've gotten where it does the wrong animation with the correct damage per hit (which is simply the calculated total damage divided by the number of hit animations it's *supposed* to have). In this case it sounds like her HSV is glitching to Leap Attack.

The thing is, when I've had that happen it still resolves correctly at the end of battle, just the displayed HP on the enemy is wrong. I had Io's Ice Shards show too few hits, and the enemy would die with HP still left, and I had Orpha's Fire Enchant (or something with few hits anyway) use the Orpha Screw animation with its numerous hits, and the enemy would appear to be obliterated but not actually die.

Anyway, the damage dealt is based only on the skill power, atk%, etc. according to the formulae, while the animation with its separate hits is merely cosmetic. So HSV doing that little total damage compared to III is definitely a glitch

blazord
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Re: Skills List

Post by blazord » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:24 pm

Yea it does definitely seem like a bug, I would imagine it's supposed to do 3 hits for 8.5k for a total of 25.5k damage, but that's still only 1 action. Nelie on the other hand seems to have wicked skill progression I haven't gotten the HS-5 with 3 actions yet but that seems like it's going to be pretty bad ass.

persocom01
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Re: Skills List

Post by persocom01 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:02 pm

it's a small error in the list, but kouin's gale VI and whirlwind VI have attack down as an additional effect, not defence down. Not that I think anyone really uses that skill anyway though. His gale VII and whirlwind VII though, have the best resist debuff I've seen; I've not seen any spirit survive 2 fireballs after getting hit by it.

Mane
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Re: Skills List

Post by Mane » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:08 pm

You're right. Fixed.

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